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#203547 - 19 October 11 4:41 pm - America/Chicago TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE
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pistol...lic/but what is allowed/what not.

shotguns ????


rifles ????/
for a retired resident
the one thread i saw seemed to be a pissing contest between pro and anti gun people...
just the facts please, no politics

thanks
mike in co

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#203549 - 19 October 11 5:03 pm - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: mikeinco]
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Do a Google search on the Belize Firearms Act. It hasn't been updated since 2000, but it's all they have. It will tell you how much for licenses, etc. Here is a snippet of what you can and cannot have. Some of it is contradictory, but it is what it is..

BELIZE FIREARMS ACT - CHAPTER 143

35.-(1) Subject to section 33, no person, including a gun-dealer shall own,
keep, carry, use or have in his possession any firearm or ammunition, of the
following description-
(a) rifle of 7.62 or higher calibre;
(b) revolver of .44 or higher calibre;
(c) magnum revolver of .357 calibre;
(d) sawed-off shotgun of any calibre;
(e) machine gun of any calibre.
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#203552 - 19 October 11 5:28 pm - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: mikeinco]
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mikeinco: license for big, 12 gauge hunting shotgun that can hold only 1 round can generally be obtained very easily.

but it's hard to get license for anything else. like shotgun with pistol grip, or semi-auto shotgun, or handgun (not sure about rifles, i don't know anyone with a rifle).

it's legally possible to get license for non-12 gauge. but Belize is not a "shall issue" country so it's hard to get one.
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#203556 - 19 October 11 7:36 pm - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: mikeinco]
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What exactly do they mean by Sawed-off?

They must state some kind of minimum barrel length?
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#203561 - 19 October 11 9:40 pm - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: wingnut1970]
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Registered: 31 July 11
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Loc: Philadelphia area, USA
Originally Posted By: wingnut1970
What exactly do they mean by Sawed-off?

They must state some kind of minimum barrel length?


21 inches. See http://www.belizepolice.bz/dmdocuments/prohibited-firearm-statutory-instrument.pdf

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#203562 - 19 October 11 9:46 pm - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: mikeinco]
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Here is some info from ‘Prohibited Firearms, Ammunition and other Materials.’ Statutory Instrument No.70 of 2008, Firearms (Amendment of Schedules) Order, 2008; Second Schedule (Section 35). Belmopan: Minister of National Security and the Commissioner of Police. 12 June.

Quote:
Prohibited Firearms, Ammunition and other Materials

Rifles
1. Rifles of calibre greater than 7.62 mm or 0.30 inch
2. All Assault Rifles
3. Machine Guns of any calibre
4. Rifles designed or adapted to have bayonet affixed
5. Sawed-off Rifles of any type
6. Rifle that is a replica of or designed for security forces in Belize

Shot Guns
7. Shot guns of barrel length 21 inches or under
8. Rifled shotguns

Hand Guns
9. Hand Guns of calibre greater than 9mm or .38inch
10. All firearms chambered for Magnum cartridges except for .22 inch or 5.6mm
11. Homemade firearm of any type or calibre
12. .22 pen guns and flare guns
13. Any altered handgun to make it semi or fully automatic

Others
14. All types of firearm sound suppressors
15. Extended magazines for handguns
16. Bullet-proof vest or similar protective apparel except by security/military personnel
17. Any armour-piercing ammunition of any calibre
18. Any equipment, material or accessories to be used in recharging of any expended ammunition or light weapon casing

prohibited-firearm-statutory-instrument.pdf

You can judge for yourself how well these strict regulations effect the murder and armed robbery rates or prevent criminals from having access to any firearms they can dream up in Belize.

Now I'm not a gun nut but I can tell crazy law that is effective in one way only and that is keeping the law abiding citizens effectively disarmed.
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#203563 - 19 October 11 9:54 pm - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: mikeinco]
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Registered: 03 June 11
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Loc: Sueno del Mar, Corozal
21" wow.....that is long
No reloading...wow


That is oppressive even by Canadian standard.

Do you think the guys who stole the M4 Carbines have a
restricted weapons certificate?????
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#203568 - 20 October 11 8:24 am - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: mikeinco]
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Two weeks ago I saw a security guard at one of the stores in Santa Elena with something that looked like a Mossberg 500 with a 14" barrel and a pistol grip. I asked him if it's possible to own these in Belize but he said only if you're law enforcement. I'm guessing that he was a moonlighting cop. I find it strange though that he would be able to carry a restricted weapon while working in a non-official capacity. Though on the other hand since nobody in Belize seem to have a problem with using official vehicles to give their wives/GFs rides, for example, it might not be so strange after all.
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#203571 - 20 October 11 10:10 am - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: Anton]
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Loc: NJ & Belmopan
Originally Posted By: Anton
I find it strange though that he would be able to carry a restricted weapon while working in a non-official capacity.

That doesn't surprise me. In many states in the U.S., such as New Jersey where I hail from, off-duty law enforcement officers have a right to carry that common citizens don't. They can have hollow point bullets in both their service revolvers and their off-duty weapons , whereas a common citizen holding a carry permit cannot.

Conceptually, I don't see anything different from an off-duty Belizean law enforcement officer carrying a weapon that is legal for police use but not legal for use by ordinary citizens.
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#203574 - 20 October 11 10:22 am - America/Chicago Re: TALK TO ME ABOUT GUNS IN BELIEZE [Re: mikeinco]
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Registered: 03 June 11
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Loc: Sueno del Mar, Corozal
about 10 years ago I talk to Brinks about working the trucks.
I have had a Restricted permit for about 25 years. Brinks told me that the only change to my permit would be, Carry while at work....It is the same permit basically in Canada.

What always bugs me about these laws is how they define the guns. A mini-14 or SKS are not assault rifles in Canada..
Really what is the difference between a mini-14 and a AR-15?
Same ammo,same barrel and clip options, both convertable to
full auto.
OR, why in Belize don't they allow a pistol grip on a shotgun?? That is just dumb,because of how it looks?

WIngnut


Edited by wingnut1970 (20 October 11 10:22 am - America/Chicago)
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